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1 month 2 weeks ago #793336 by Frodo
Think I heard that more than 100 of the deaths in SA yesterday was reported in the Free State - smacks of 'delayed reporting' again - might be more realistic to check the figures weekly - but still these only reflect REPORTED cases - as mentioned there are sure to be many more - still the recovery rate seems encouraging - taking into account that 'unreported recoveries' are probably also much higher than the 'reported' number ...

And then the Government's totally ridiculous ban on the sale of tobacco and alcohol - why not just up the 'tax' on these products significantly - imo would still be cheaper than the Black Market prices - and at least then the Government can collect the tax .... baffles my small mind :unsure:

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1 month 2 weeks ago #793337 by TNaicker
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Frodo wrote: Think I heard that more than 100 of the deaths in SA yesterday was reported in the Free State - smacks of 'delayed reporting' again - might be more realistic to check the figures weekly - but still these only reflect REPORTED cases - as mentioned there are sure to be many more - still the recovery rate seems encouraging - taking into account that 'unreported recoveries' are probably also much higher than the 'reported' number ...

And then the Government's totally ridiculous ban on the sale of tobacco and alcohol - why not just up the 'tax' on these products significantly - imo would still be cheaper than the Black Market prices - and at least then the Government can collect the tax .... baffles my small mind :unsure:


Unless some people (in "leadership" positions) are benefiting from the participants in the "black" market...

If you can understand a person's self-interest in anything, you will see the logic in their action or inaction...

Life's too short to have a long face...so, cherish the good, learn from the bad and forget the rest...

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1 month 2 weeks ago #793341 by durbs

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Frodo wrote: Think I heard that more than 100 of the deaths in SA yesterday was reported in the Free State - smacks of 'delayed reporting' again - might be more realistic to check the figures weekly - but still these only reflect REPORTED cases - as mentioned there are sure to be many more - still the recovery rate seems encouraging - taking into account that 'unreported recoveries' are probably also much higher than the 'reported' number ...

And then the Government's totally ridiculous ban on the sale of tobacco and alcohol - why not just up the 'tax' on these products significantly - imo would still be cheaper than the Black Market prices - and at least then the Government can collect the tax .... baffles my small mind :unsure:


Unless some people (in "leadership" positions) are benefiting from the participants in the "black" market...

If you can understand a person's self-interest in anything, you will see the logic in their action or inaction...


Is there actually any difference between our government and the people who where running racing?
As in so many things in this country if they do it why can't we?
They hardly ever get prosecuted exactly the same as our racing.
First thing these new owners of SA racing must do is bring every thief that ran our racing to book,if successful they could get back tens of millions.
First person I would look at is Larry Wainstein and the sectional timing debacle.
I hope they don't just sweep things under the carpet and forget the unscrupulous people that brought our racing to it's knees.

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1 month 2 weeks ago #793342 by TNaicker
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I did previously raise the similarities between the ANC and Phu...sad but true...:( :unsure:

Life's too short to have a long face...so, cherish the good, learn from the bad and forget the rest...
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1 month 2 weeks ago #793345 by TNaicker
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And with these entities, and many others, as the incumbents who create a mess are removed, they are replaced by people associated to them, who knew the wrongs being committed but turned a blind eye to quietly partake in the looting or to position themselves for future benefits or titles / positions...

I'm middle aged so have enough knowledge and experience to make a plan and wade through the current difficult and future worse times to come...I really worry about the next generation like my 12 year daughter and the economic burden they will carry for current profligacy..."government" only has two sources of revenue...current taxes and future taxes (current borrowings)...printing money just leads to inflation and will decrease the spending power of the poorest quickest so not a route to be taken until the ANC knows they are going to lose the vote of those dependent on the state and that is some way away...

So, worrying times currently and even tougher times to come...

Gandhi said something along the lines of us having more than everyone's need but not enough for a few people's greed...prescient...

Life's too short to have a long face...so, cherish the good, learn from the bad and forget the rest...

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1 month 1 week ago #793436 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Thursday 6 th August was 206 taking us to 9604.

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46413

Using the 134 days of lockdown

Average UK 346 daily
SA is 72.

Total deaths 717719.

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1 month 1 week ago #793441 by Bob Brogan
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And WHO are still reminding people we are still in the 1st wave (worldwide) and not heading to a second like the western leaders like to mention...

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1 month 1 week ago #793497 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Friday 7th August was 305 taking us to 9909

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46511

Using the 135 days of lockdown

Average UK 345 daily
SA is 73

SA cases 140808
Recoveries 394759

Total deaths 717719.

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1 month 1 week ago #793611 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Saturday 8th August was 301 taking us to 10210

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46566

Using the 136 days of lockdown

Average UK 342 daily
SA is 75

SA cases 138410
Recoveries 404568

Total deaths 729594

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1 month 1 week ago #793689 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Sunday 9 th August was 198 taking us to 10408

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46574

Using the 137 days of lockdown

Average UK 340 daily
SA is 76

SA cases 137977
Recoveries 411474

Total deaths 734098

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1 month 1 week ago #793795 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Monday 10th August was 213 taking us to 10621

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46526

Using the 138 days of lockdown

Average UK 337 daily
SA is 77

SA cases 135777
Recoveries 417200

Total deaths 738965

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1 month 1 week ago #793859 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Tuesday 11th August was 130 taking us to 10751

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 46628

Using the 139 days of lockdown

Average UK 335 daily
SA is 77

SA cases 129233
Recoveries 426125

Total deaths 745918

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1 month 1 week ago #793955 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Wednesday 12th August was 259 taking us to 11010

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 41329 note this figure reported dropped??

Using the 140 days of lockdown

Average UK 295 daily
SA is 79

SA cases 125880
Recoveries 432029

Total deaths 747273

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1 month 6 days ago #794021 by PeterD
As at the week ended 4th August, the number of excess deaths from natural causes reached 33000 cumulatively since beginning May. This is 3 times the reported tested Covid deaths. Two thirds are people over the age of 60.
The good news is that the weekly excess deaths has been declining in all provinces since the week of 15th July. Hence, unless we get a second wave after the next round of easing of restrictions ( it’s starting to look likely that we will soon go to level 2) that may have been the peak for deaths.
Sadly, there are still around 4000 excess deaths per week right now, but that is significantly down from the peak of 6000 per week.
The Western Cape is the only province where the number of Covid reported deaths is reasonably close to the number of observed excess deaths- in all other provinces the under- reporting is very high.
The hotspots are EC, KZN and Gauteng.
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1 month 6 days ago #794031 by Dave Scott
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Thank you Peter and it would be fair to say that the balance between humanitarian vs economy has been badly judged.

The deaths reported in SA yesterday Thursday 13th August was 260 taking us to 11270

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 41347

Using the 141days of lockdown

Average UK 293 daily
SA is 80

SA cases 123987
Recoveries 437617

Total deaths 757471

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1 month 6 days ago - 1 month 6 days ago #794064 by Sylvester
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COVID Figures last 40 days

Less tests less cases not less deaths

Regime creating a narrative that supports Level 2

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1 month 5 days ago #794088 by Frodo
Imo - of course one needs to try and minimize infections and deaths - however the tobacco and alcohol ban does not make sense ito lowering the COVID-19 infections and deaths. And neither does the 'inter-provincial travel ban'. I have come across some estimates that shows how many more hospitals could have been built using the taxes lost by banning tobacco and alcohol sales - and these bans do not stop people from buying.

Also ito the deaths caused by COVID-19 in South Africa, while regrettable, the total deaths do not come close to the deaths caused by TB (reported as 63,000 in 2018) and Diabetes (reported at 92,000 in 2019) - yet nobody banned alcohol and tobacco sales in reaction to these figures

Anyway - let's see what the weekend brings ....

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1 month 5 days ago #794100 by TNaicker
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To answer @Frodo...rain on the east coast...

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1 month 5 days ago #794114 by Dave Scott
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The deaths reported in SA yesterday Friday 14th August was 286 taking us to 11556

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 41358

Using the 142 days of lockdown

Average UK 291 daily
SA is 81

SA cases 105850
Recoveries 461734

Total deaths 763353

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1 month 4 days ago #794167 by Dave Scott
Dave Scott on topic COVID - 19 Daily Update Stats:
The deaths reported in SA yesterday Saturday 15th August was 119 taking us to 11677

This is the first time that SA numbers are the same as the UK average.

Uk are on 41361

Using the 143 days of lockdown

Average UK 289 daily
SA is 82

SA cases 105035
Recoveries 466941

Total deaths 769006

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