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quite an amazing match so far.

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What a match, you have to feel sorry for whoever loses here, nobody deserves to lose after this epic.
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Congrats to the Argentines, probably the deserved winners on play.
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Messi gets his world cup , have to feel for mbappe hat trick and still on the losing side

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What a game you could not write the script 👏
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The GOAT debate is over... for now! Winners and losers as Messi's Argentina overcome Mbappe's France in greatest World Cup final ever
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Lionel Messi scored twice while Kylian Mbappe hit a hat-trick in a breath-takingly beautiful 3-3 draw in Lusail that was decided on penalties

Quite simply the greatest game in World Cup history. Maybe the greatest game ever played. Argentina's shootout victory over France encapsulated everything we love about this sport.

Indeed, it felt fitting that Sergio Aguero was down there on the pitch celebrating with all of his former Argentina team-mates because this was 'Drink it in', 'Non ci credo', 'Football, bloody hell' and 'Dennis Bergkamp' all rolled into one.

It had everything. And more. Things you didn't dare imagine you might see before kick-off. It didn't just live up to its billing, it surpassed it.



Lionel Messi scored twice and Kylian Mbappe hit a hat-trick, but it wasn't just about the biggest names. This glorious spectacle was testament to the talent and character of every person to set foot on the field.

There was a demonstration in the art of wing play for an hour from Angel Di Maria, a goalkeeping masterclass from Emiliano Martinez, and then some inspired substitutions from the two coaches, Didier Deschamps and Lionel Scaloni.

And that wasn't the half of it.

GOAL runs through the winners and losers from a match that will never, ever be forgotten...

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WINNER: Angel Di Maria
Messi wasn't the only player in the Argentina squad with a compelling World Cup story arc stretching back to the agony of the 2014 finals in Brazil.

Angel Di Maria, remember, had suffered more than most, literally, having seen his campaign ended at the quarter-final stage by injury.

It was also feared that he'd miss this final too, having seen just eight minutes of game time in the knockout stages. Indeed, he spent the entirety of the semi-final win over Croatia sitting on the bench.

His inclusion in the starting line-up, then, caused anxiety among the Argentine press pack. They feared he might not be match fit, they suspected Lionel Scaloni would have been better served by employing a 3-5-2 formation.

They need not have worried. Di Maria was ready, willing and able to provoke panic every single time he picked up possession.

He did a number on Ousmane Dembele to win Argentina's penalty, finished off a stunning counter-attack to make it 2-0 and even threw in a nutmeg on Aurelien Tchouameni for good measure.

Messi will understandably dominate the headline, but he'll be the first to acknowledge the role Di Maria played in winning him a Copa America and a World Cup.

Indeed, one wonders had he been fit enough to finish the game, would France have even made it to extra time?...

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LOSER: The GOAT debate
It's finally over, right? Even Piers Morgan and the rest of the Cristiano Ronaldo's supporters will surely now admit that Lionel Messi is the greatest of all time?...

Probably not, but who cares? Messi certainly won't. His place at the pinnacle of his profession is now beyond dispute.

It has been for some time, of course, but there were always the allegations that he'd never done it for Argentina.

Well, in the space of 18 months, he's lifted the Copa America and the World Cup, and been the best player in both.

He's 35 now, for crying out loud. This is super-human. This is Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle. This is Michael Jordan in Game 6. This is Tiger Woods at Augusta.

There is nothing left for Messi to achieve. Nothing left to say about him. He's now immortal. He's now the GOAT.

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WINNER: Lionel Scaloni
Lionel Scaloni found it difficult to put into words what making the final meant to him. Imagine what he's feeling now.

At 44 years of age, he's just become the youngest manager to win the World Cup since his compatriot Cesar Luis Menotti (39), and he's done it a year after leading Argentina to the Copa America – the nation's first major international trophy at senior level for 28 years.

Having Messi helps, but let's not forget how many coaches tried and failed to get the best out of the little genius. And during his peak years too.

What Scaloni has done, then, is truly remarkable. He inherited a group of players left devastated by their last-16 elimination by France at Russia 2018. On Sunday, he got the better of Didier Deschamps in an epic encounter.

Penalties are obviously a lottery but Scaloni, just as he did against the Netherlands in the quarter-finals, did an incredible job reviving his side with some crucial substitutions (particularly the introduction of Leandro Paredes) that saw the momentum shift back in Argentina's favour.

The camaraderie he has instilled in this side is truly remarkable. He has achieved that all-to-rare feat of creating a club spirit in an international set-up.

He was by no means a popular appointment four years ago; now, though, he's the second-most popular Lionel in Argentina!

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LOSER: Ousmane Dembele
Gary Neville obviously disagrees, but it's hard not to feel at least some sympathy for Ousmane Dembele.

He arrived in Qatar brimming with belief thanks to a welcome renaissance at Barcelona. It was even thought that he might prove to be one of the players of the tournament, given most opposition sides would likely focus on the threat posed by France's other flying winger, Kylian Mbappe.

Dembele, though, underwhelmed throughout, managing just two assists in seven outings.

The final proved particularly painful. Illness or injury may have played a part, but Dembele was dreadful.

He touched the ball just 17 times, entered the Argentine third just once and gifted Messi the opener from the penalty spot after clumsily bundling over Di Maria in the area, after being fooled by his fellow winger on the touchline.

His substitution on the 41st minute was manager Didier Deschamps showing him some mercy.

Dembele is still only 25. There is still time for him to realise his undoubted world-class potential, but it may take him more time to recover from this tournament than the numerous injuries he suffered over the years.

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WINNER: Brighton
Had it not been for the heroics of superstars such as Messi and Mbappe, Alexis Mac Allister would have been a legitimate contender for Man of the Match.

He worked tirelessly in midfield and consistently caused problems when he drifted into space in between the lines, as so thrillingly demonstrated by his assist for Di Maria's goal.

In short, Mac Allister was immense, just as he has been throughout this tournament.

The only bad news from a Brighton perspective is that they're going to find it very difficult to hold on to Mac Allister. On the plus side, the offers they receive should be worthy of one of the breakout stars of the 2022 World Cup.

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WINNER: Kylian Mbappe
How long will Lionel Messi be considered the GOAT? That may depend on Kylian Mbappe.

The kid is ridiculous. France were dreadful here for more than 70 minutes. Yet he only needed just over 90 seconds to turn this final on its head, first with a coolly taken penalty, and then with the most fantastic of first-time finishes.

Even after Messi scored what looked like the winner, Mbappe refused to go away, showing utter contempt for the fairytale narrative by winning and converting yet another spot-kick, earning himself the Golden Boot in the process.

He proved his mettle once again in the shootout and underlined why he looks destined to break every single World Cup record.

At 23 years of age, he's already a tournament legend.

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LOSER: Nicolas Otamendi
Nicolas Otamendi had been utterly outstanding for Argentina in this tournament, their best defender by some distance. Indeed, he fully deserved the massive roar he received from the crowd when he collected his medal.

However, he must have felt like the luckiest man in Lusail after the penalty shootout, as it was he who had gifted France a route back into the game by first losing Randal Kolo Muani, and then bundling him over in the area.

Argentina completely lost their composure for 20 minutes after that foul. Had it not been for Scaloni, they wouldn't have regained it.

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WINNER: Emiliano Martinez
Emiliano Martinez is a bit crazy. But then all goalkeepers are meant to be. And besides, there is a method to his madness.

Martinez was absolutely integral to Argentina's success. He didn't just psyche out Kingsley Coman and Aurelien Tchouameni in the shootout, he was the reason the game went all the way to penalties, after producing the greatest save you'll ever see with an outstretched boot, from Randal Kolo Muani right at the end of extra-time.

As we've outlined before, Martinez personifies the spirit of self-sacrifice that has propelled this Argentina team to glory.

It was lovely, then, to see him receive an individual accolade (Goalkeeper of the Tournament) for playing such a key role in a collective triumph.

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LOSER: The penalty-takers
If ever there was a game that nobody deserved to lose, this was it. So, to see it decided by missed penalties from two young men who had been integral to France's two comebacks was heartbreaking.

Kingsley Coman tormented the previously untroubled Argentine backline after coming on, while Aurelien Tchouameni helped wrestle back control of the midfield for the final 20 minutes of normal time.

So, while they will undoubtedly be devastated by their squandered spot-kicks, one hopes that they will, in time, look back on their contribution to this classic with nothing but pride.

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WINNER: South American football
As soon as France set up a final showdown with Argentina, Mbappe's infamous quotes on the strength of South American football resurfaced online.

Emiliano Martinez was even asked about the Frenchman's claim that Brazil and Argentina don't play as many "high-level matches" as European nations during his pre-match press conference.

"He doesn't know enough about football," the goalkeeper told reporters. "He never played in South America. When you don’t have this experience, it may be better not to talk about it. But it doesn't matter. We are a great team, recognised as such."

They certainly will be now, but there's no denying that there was a modicum of truth in Mbappe's claim.

The creation of the Nations League has been viewed as a negative by the likes of Brazil and Argentina because it's denied them opportunities to play friendlies against European sides.

The South American game, then, needed this show of strength, and a first World Cup triumph since 2002, to remind the world why remains a footballing force.

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Incredible final...

Last tango for Messi?

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I was thinking that the media had over egged Messia vs Mbappe in the build up.

How right they were!

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Onto 2026............Mexico, Mexican waves, Sombreros, Tacos, Nachos and Muchachos ,Cartels, killings and beheadings.
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The 2022 World Cup is over so let’s start talking about 2026 and all the problems of hosting the tournament in North America


Looking towards 2026

Well Qatar is over (What a tournament) and before the mailbox gets filled with Carabao and Premiership thoughts I’d like to preview 2026.




I’m not to enamoured with the format chosen 16 groups of 3. Personally I would recommend 12 groups of 4 and use a variant of the Europa League format (with a play-off ) to whittle from 24 to 16.

My mail however is to assess how ready is anyone to win the next one its only 31/2 years away. Let’s assess it per continent.

Oceania 2 teams max I guaranteed

Kiwis will become World Cup regulars, Solomon Island will probably lose 427 -0 in the continental playoffs neither really has a chance of winning the tournament. Will be happy to win game.

North and Central America 6 or 8

Well the usual two suspects (Mexico and US) will be the hosts along with Canada, US had a young team that will be a bit more mature in four years, Mexico in contrast look like they will need to rebuild they had players in their late 30’s and a 40 year old, Canada like the US had an inexperienced squad, they will be better for this experience and will probably have more professionals by the next one phasing out guys who had heart, but not enough quality this time around most of these 3 should go deep into the tournament like last 16.

The interesting part will be watching the rest of Concacaf trying to qualify without the aforementioned big guns. It will probably be Costa Rica + 2 others who will be happy to be at the World Cup.

Asia 8 or 9

Usual Suspects (Skorea, Japan, Australia, Iran, S Arabia) will qualify easily probably a full year before the actual tournament, Japan will probably go this year’s squad with a few additions. South Korea’s Main aim will be replacing Son, the rest will replace who they need to most will be happy with getting out of the group if they qualify, the 3-4 guaranteed spots will give a chance for other countries to experience the World Cup, opening up what has been a closed shop.

Africa 9 or 10

Africa had a decent tournament (including its first semi-finalist), The additional four spots will probably benefit some of the continental powers who missed out ,,,less likely to be a situation where Salah and Mane have a playoff to decide whose country qualifies.
Both of those talismen will probably go as grizzled veterans, their best years behind them in 2026


I think the Ayews might retire and there could be a lot of upheaval in the Ghanaian team, I expect the Nigerians to qualify and do well. Morocco should also make it back in 4 years along with much of the North African contingent. I expect a team or 2 to get to the quarters, the bar has been raised, reaching the last 16 wont be seen as a big achievement anymore .

Conmebol 6 to 7

A major gripe I have with 2026 is that some of the qualifying procedures, (I’m looking at South America and Asia) have not been simplified is there really a reason to still have the 18-team slug fest that will start next March no less just to eliminate only three teams?
Brazil and Argentina will be there. Brazil should be contenders, Neymar will likely not make the team. If Thiago Silva and Alves are still part of the team we may need to check if they have an aversion to garlic and wooden stakes, Argentina wont win the next one , they did well this time based primarily on the will to win it for Messi, there are some major rebuilds that need to take place for some of the second tier. Uruguay, Colombia and Chile who really shouldn’t be depending on the likes of Cavani, Godin Muslera, Falcao, James Rodriguez, Cuadrado, Sanchez or Vidal?

Is it to early to suspect that Bolivia and Venezuela will be two of the three who will watch from home.

Europe 16 teams

The Elite 7 are at various levels of preparedness France and Portugal already look like contenders in terms of squad strength. Many questions for Portugal will be what the style and team dynamic with Santos and CR7 likely to have left.
England will probably have to restructure their defence and replace their record goalscorer, Germany need a new spine, Italy need to start taking World Cups seriously again.

The Dutch will probably have to change a few players at the back post Euro 2024 (Van Dijk, Blind and De Vrij will all be late 30’s Wijnaldjum will probably be phased out as well. They do have the a great production line from PSV and Ajax.

A few teams are at the end of major cycles particularly Belgium and Wales I have to commend Croatia for finishing third again and the emergence of Gvardiol amongst others but the real issue come after Modric and Perisic leave.

Overall the Europeanelite should as usual be competitive, the interesting thing will be seeing how the teams adapt to having to play teams from other continents more often as there will be fewer group games between teams from the same continent.

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Attention on USA, Mexico and Canada.

Now the Qatar world cup is over can we all turn are attention to the next World Cup.

I’ve been shocked by the west’s coverage of all the various ‘issues’ with the Qatar World Cup but that’s in the past now and they must now focus on the next World Cup in Canada, Mexico and the USA.

My first question is, how on earth is it good for the environment to have a World Cup played across the whole of North and Central America. Teams, fans and the media are going to have a massive carbon footprint in order to travel the thousands of miles across the continent.

For all the talk of Qatar being a winter World Cup, the west seemed to have forgot 2 points 1) for half the world this was not the winter, how nice was it see people in Argentina being able to celebrate in the summer as opposed to every other World Cup that has been played in the winter, 2) the weather in Qatar looked amazing for football and fans 23-28 degrees and nearly all kick offs after sun set.

Can we start to look at the potential weather in Mexico, USA and Canada especially if kick off times are going to be around midday or early afternoon to ensure they are not too late for the European and African audiences. My understanding is temperatures in July and August will be unbearable (potentially 35-40 degrees in the direct sun) could the tournament be moved to say May/June or September? Despite the fake controversy about moving the Qatar World Cup, I believe the 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea was also moved forward to avoid the worst of the weather there.


Finally now we have all decided that hosting a World Cup means we need to forensically investigate immigration and LGBTQ stances in the host countries can we start looking at the state-level bills that curtail the rights of LGBTQ people in the USA and the 1.5million refugees and migrants that are getting unlawfully pushed back to the USA-Mexico border as well as the 7698 cases alone of missing or disappeared persons in Mexico in 2021. I understand this has nothing to do with those countries hosting the World Cup however in my opinion this was the same as Qatar where a tiny proportion of the migrant issues was related to the World Cup yet this took centre stage.

The likes of the BBC and Guardian must report this instead of say the World Cup opening ceremony, and while the tournament is on they must start every question to officials that have worked on the World Cup about these issues.

If they do not, they are at best hypocrites and at worst racists.

Paul K, London



The question of hosting the World Cup in Qatar has been subject to considerable conversation and rightly so. Well perhaps it’s a little early to rain on everyone’s parade but, I just want to point out that in four years, the next World Cup will be held in a country where:

– In 2021 there were 5 times as many gun-related deaths than people killed so far in Ukraine

– One population demographic that represents 13% of the population represent over 38% of all prisoner incarcerated

– Over 10% of the population have no healthcare

– No one under 21 will be able to drink

If that isn’t enough, we are going to be subjected to four years of trying to convince the World the game is called ‘soccer’ because they have a game called ‘Football’ which is played by catching, throwing and running with an oblong shaped ball IN THEIR HANDS, ‘cleats’, and getting the shot ‘on frame’ (whatever the heck that means!).

And if all that doesn’t fill you with enough dread, if Trump gets re-elected, watch him turn the World’s largest sporting event into being all about him.

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The Three Amigos: U.S., Mexico, Canada Want Joint Custody Of 2026 World Cup
Sports Grid | April 12, 2017


Related Topics: Canada, United States, Mexico

The three North American countries want to co-host the World Cup in 2026, and not only that — the Organizing Committee has asked FIFA to move up the approval process to next year, instead of 2020, when the vote is supposed to take place.

Under the plan, the U.S. would play host to the bulk of the games — 60 of them, including all the game from the quarterfinals up through the championship. That leaves 10 games each for Canada and Mexico 
 good luck crossing the borders, soccer fans!

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