Dog Racing in SA

i see no difference between horse racing and dog racing. if its ok to race animals called horses it should be ok to race animals called dogs.

keniza999 Wrote:

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> i see no difference between horse racing and dog
> racing. if its ok to race animals called horses it
> should be ok to race animals called dogs.


I can tell you that if Horse Racing was not available in SA it would not be allowed to start

keniza999 Wrote:

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> i see no difference between horse racing and dog
> racing. if its ok to race animals called horses it
> should be ok to race animals called dogs.

I must say ,that these are my thoughts too!

However,if this is just one of the issues that are a follow up to the gambling investigation commissioned by the dept of trade and industry ,I would be very interested in other submissions in response to many of the other recommendations , so where do I find the submission in its entirety ...................does anybody know .................can't find it on the dti website!

In the horse racing industry we have a major problem with retired or injured horses finding good homes. We all accept and agree to this, why then create a new problem ? The animal is the only one that will suffer.
No, big No !

controversial as it may sound, why not use them for food instead of letting horses suffer??

Damn, and here I thought I could enter a few of my female co-workers. <

No a big No !

Where there is a strong tradition and supposedly strong rules and regulations overseas you still see horror stories with regard ex racers and loads of greyhounds that never make the track living out their lives in misery.

Here in SA where there is zero respect for human life never mind animals it'll be a circus with the necessary man power to prevent abuse and uphold the law non existent.

One can only imagine what would happen in townships such as Mitchells Plain and Nyanga referring to the Cape where it would be open to a massive criminal element .

Love the dogs overseas and my dad bred and raced them in Ireland , but to think it would work here I have my serious concerns .

shrek Wrote:

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> Damn, and here I thought I could enter a few of my
> female co-workers. <


wahahaha

What's dog fighting and human poverty got to do with dog racing?

Mac Wrote:

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> What's dog fighting and human poverty got to do
> with dog racing?


Quite a lot actually - After they finish racing where do you think they'll end up?
In two ticks some clever will be buying them up to use as Bait dogs in Fighting rings(just yesterday morning I heard a poor chap from Thembisa, I think, call 702 to say the family pet- a 8 month old pit bull had been stolen from his home and the whole family were upset as he was their pride and joy) - Then another lot will get them to race in the townships just like those that used horses to do that- Others will be adopted by well meaning types that will take them home and find they can't afford the vet bills for dogs that are finicky and they'll end up being dumped or they don't have the time to walk dogs that are used to a very active life and will dump them when they start eating the garden out of frustration -

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> hibernia Wrote:
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> > Much easier to rehome a dog when they retire
> from
> > racing than a horse
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> Bob you need to see how dogs are treated in SA -
> My own neighbours have a new puppy every year - It
> escapes(because they don't care to secure their
> home) and is either run over or is taken to the
> SPCA where many are PUT down and not re-homed - We
> live in a country rife with poverty where there is
> hardly enough cash to feed the children so really
> dogs are last on the list of priorities so there
> really is no need to add to an already saturated
> problem
> from the SPCA site
> Dog racing, including greyhound racing, involves
> many welfare problems which are inherent in other
> countries and are not limited to:
>
> Lives of confinement, some being confined more
> than 20 hours per day
> Lack of or inadequate medical/veterinary
> attention and treatment
> Serious injuries which include broken legs,
> paralysis, head trauma and death from cardiac
> arrest
> Continual breeding: - South Africa already
> having an overpopulation of dogs
> Potential inhumane disposal of unsuitable,
> injured or "retired” dogs
> Cruel and inhumane training methods, in some
> instances live animals are used
> 50% of greyhounds are "disposed of” before
> they even reach the tracks.
> Drugging of the dogs to hide injuries or to
> enhance performance
> Excess dogs will be contributing to illegal
> hunting and poaching of our wildlife
>
> I own 4 dogs at present and have had to spend 30k
> + over the last 3 years on vet bills (my dogs are
> TBred which like Greyhounds are often more prone
> to injury and sickness than cross breeds ) How may
> people can spend that on dogs when there are
> hungry humans to feed. The animals will suffer and
> there is no good reason to start this as the
> gambling rand is already stretched.


why don't you take out insurance on them Mr H works out loads cheaper in the long run

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > hibernia Wrote:
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> > > Much easier to rehome a dog when they retire
> > from
> > > racing than a horse
> >
> >
> > Bob you need to see how dogs are treated in SA
> -
> > My own neighbours have a new puppy every year -
> It
> > escapes(because they don't care to secure their
> > home) and is either run over or is taken to the
> > SPCA where many are PUT down and not re-homed -
> We
> > live in a country rife with poverty where there
> is
> > hardly enough cash to feed the children so
> really
> > dogs are last on the list of priorities so
> there
> > really is no need to add to an already
> saturated
> > problem
> > from the SPCA site
> > Dog racing, including greyhound racing,
> involves
> > many welfare problems which are inherent in
> other
> > countries and are not limited to:
> >
> > Lives of confinement, some being confined
> more
> > than 20 hours per day
> > Lack of or inadequate medical/veterinary
> > attention and treatment
> > Serious injuries which include broken legs,
> > paralysis, head trauma and death from cardiac
> > arrest
> > Continual breeding: - South Africa already
> > having an overpopulation of dogs
> > Potential inhumane disposal of unsuitable,
> > injured or "retired” dogs
> > Cruel and inhumane training methods, in
> some
> > instances live animals are used
> > 50% of greyhounds are "disposed of”
> before
> > they even reach the tracks.
> > Drugging of the dogs to hide injuries or to
> > enhance performance
> > Excess dogs will be contributing to illegal
> > hunting and poaching of our wildlife
> >
> > I own 4 dogs at present and have had to spend
> 30k
> > + over the last 3 years on vet bills (my dogs
> are
> > TBred which like Greyhounds are often more
> prone
> > to injury and sickness than cross breeds ) How
> may
> > people can spend that on dogs when there are
> > hungry humans to feed. The animals will suffer
> and
> > there is no good reason to start this as the
> > gambling rand is already stretched.
>
>
> why don't you take out insurance on them Mr H
> works out loads cheaper in the long run

It would but having Shar Peis they would not take me onboard because they have far too many health issues and the premiums would be too high