Vaal Inside - Thurs 13th June

Winning Form & Magic Tips Best Bets - Vaal

rob faux Wrote:

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> pirates Wrote:
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> > i dont like saying things like this but if
> genuine
> > leather gets beaten tomorow i will be
> > shocked...she ran an absolute cracker last time
> > behind the very best in the land at wfa terms
> and
> > was in under sufferance maybe frodo and rob
> faux
> > can tell us what she ran to but off 50kg in
> this
> > conditions race and having her 3rd run back
> after
> > a years rest and having beaten the majority of
> the
> > field on her comeback run and being better off
> in
> > the weights she should win in a common
> canter....
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> Pirates ,I have her as a 104+( the plus is that I
> would think she was not quite at 100% fitness),so
> yes she should be a blinder .
> If she runs a poor race then that is the result
> that needs an explanation and should be asked
> for(avoids the speculation and accusations) if
> punters are to trust our regulators.


Rob, if you have GL at 104, what did you give WaW and VA? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I have GL at 98 (which by my calcs would have WaW at 122 - could be that we are using different formulas when converting lengths to kg's / points?

Anyway I also think she will blow them away, as I have Alcanina at 97 - which makes GL 9 points clear at the weights

Race 2 Not Sulking
Race 9 Verrochio to get some money back of his big R1.1 million price tag. Should be cherry ripe 3rd run after a rest.

Frodo Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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> > > i dont like saying things like this but if
> > genuine
> > > leather gets beaten tomorow i will be
> > > shocked...she ran an absolute cracker last
> time
> > > behind the very best in the land at wfa terms
> > and
> > > was in under sufferance maybe frodo and rob
> > faux
> > > can tell us what she ran to but off 50kg in
> > this
> > > conditions race and having her 3rd run back
> > after
> > > a years rest and having beaten the majority
> of
> > the
> > > field on her comeback run and being better
> off
> > in
> > > the weights she should win in a common
> > canter....
> >
> > Pirates ,I have her as a 104+( the plus is that
> I
> > would think she was not quite at 100%
> fitness),so
> > yes she should be a blinder .
> > If she runs a poor race then that is the result
> > that needs an explanation and should be asked
> > for(avoids the speculation and accusations) if
> > punters are to trust our regulators.
>
>
> Rob, if you have GL at 104, what did you give WaW
> and VA? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I have
> GL at 98 (which by my calcs would have WaW at 122
> - could be that we are using different formulas
> when converting lengths to kg's / points?
>
> Anyway I also think she will blow them away, as I
> have Alcanina at 97 - which makes GL 9 points
> clear at the weights

Frodo ,I used VA ,a 3yr old filly who win her previous and subsequent run as the line horse and the 4 lgths converted to 9 points in my book.

With regard to different factors,I will tell you that I used adjusted times for many years and found that the traditional "drag" factor to be a myth???????This was so illogical that I checked my findings against other developers who used data (Owen Heffer -Winning Form and Antony Evans- Formstar ) who ,much to my surprise ,confirmed my results.
We will chat about it further one day when I meet you cos ,as you will appreciate,I don't want to face all the expert slinging off on the site............lol

Dark reign
Genuine Leather
Vulcan
Sacred Temple

Englander Wrote:

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> Hopefully going to the England - Sri Lanka game at
> the Oval and thus won't be around! Ticket and
> weather permitting! Don't usually enjoy 1-dayers
> but if it gets boring, there's always the pub with
> mates!
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> So, from a very competitive and tough card, here's
> some quick look selections...
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> Semi-idiots
> R2 2 The Good Life
> R5 7 Kapellmeister
> R7 9 Mystic Tigress
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> E/W Patent
> R6 1 Money Doesn't Count
> R8 3 Shimmering Gem
> R9 6 Verrochio
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> Be(s)t of luck to all


What Mates?
Didnt know you could hire mates.

davetheflower Wrote:

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> Englander Wrote:
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> > Hopefully going to the England - Sri Lanka game
> at
> > the Oval and thus won't be around! Ticket and
> > weather permitting! Don't usually enjoy
> 1-dayers
> > but if it gets boring, there's always the pub
> with
> > mates!
> >
> > So, from a very competitive and tough card,
> here's
> > some quick look selections...
> >
> > Semi-idiots
> > R2 2 The Good Life
> > R5 7 Kapellmeister
> > R7 9 Mystic Tigress
> >
> > E/W Patent
> > R6 1 Money Doesn't Count
> > R8 3 Shimmering Gem
> > R9 6 Verrochio
> >
> > Be(s)t of luck to all
>
>
> What Mates?
> Didnt know you could hire mates.


Dave when you though enough money around you always have mates.

Playmates ( .... Memeza ....kaching !!

Win Multiple.

I really think that the first 4 race favourites will win today.

DARK REIGN
BANCHORY
VIVALAVIE
G/LEATHER

Total odds are 16/1. For interest in Greyville tomorrow you can add Run for It, as that is a penalty kick. 5 favourites 21/1().

"Happy Punting"

i give you even 30-1 because one of them will 99% fail
i even thin, maximum three get through


TED Wrote:

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> Win Multiple.
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> I really think that the first 4 race favourites
> will win today.
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> DARK REIGN
> BANCHORY
> VIVALAVIE
> G/LEATHER
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> Total odds are 16/1. For interest in Greyville
> tomorrow you can add Run for It, as that is a
> penalty kick. 5 favourites 21/1().
>
> "Happy Punting"

Elusive club "GIN Strike"

R1. De Koch does ok in these races and I think jockey 2/2 for him but don't like these short prices (even if they do still bring bit of profit) so headbanger small e/w on Jonase/maroon who gave me a nice 50/1 few weeks ago ( I think only time they got together) and then possible saver on Cohiba8-)