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Hacker not good boy.
That particular God you talking about is the one that gives and take away.
He deserves to be written with Capital letters. GOD
Not good boy not good.
It might be time for you to get your live straight.
End of discussion.

Hacker, you sound like a very sour and miserable person. Try and find forgiveness in your heart. What is it that Fortune has done to you and also please yell us what is in those brown bags

BDB well said my brother .

All have sinned and have fallen short of his glory and all need forgiveness .

Sin is Sin regardless of what type of Sin . GOD is GOD and he forgives us.

Hacker as Bravo says Not good not good at all.

Hacker...In your experiences with Andrew you may feel justified in harbouring the feelings you express at this moment and yes their is no justification and very little excuses for persons doing others in and it matters not on which scale.
The point is...without getting into theological debates about who deserves forgiveness and who not...we have absolutely no idea whats gonna happen to us in the next hour let alone to others.
Nobody has appointed us judge jury executioner and proghet over the fate of others. We should rather be hoping and praying that they are serious about doing a positive about-turn in their lives.

On a last note..I have experienced that forgiving others has an amazing impact ony yourself let alone the forgiven party.

And oh yes...I appreciate not being called a sissy-wanker, but if being a sissy-wanker means giving someone an undeserved second, third, fourth or even hundreth chance, then i'll feel fortunate to be called one. I know I've been given many chances.

Tangles...you're just nosey!

Say how long is he going to last? If he cant make 58? Sad sad

one thing I do know is when you stop the drugs and alcohol you battle to gain or lose weight.

He will do it, can't come this far for nothing.

Sissy-wankers, like tangles & bravo, are children who would think that a reformed cretin is BETTER than those who are good. You're all god is good and forgiveness and boo-hoo. Do you ever stand up for what is right? It appears that to be admired on abc by s-w, best you assault someone like Carlos did, nearly die but don't, or get into sports bribes like Henny and walk scot free while the other bloke dies, or be a wacked out thieving druggie who makes a glory comeback, riding again with people whose lives he happily risked daily before without giving a shit. Now all forgiven and hero status.
Forgiveness is what you grant to someone who has done you a personal wrong. He only saved himself, so is he a hero sissy-wankers?

Hacker

I for one don't think Fortune is a hero . He came back, starting dealing with his issues and is trying to get his life back on track. He has much to prove more to himself then anyone else.

I for one do not know what he did to others and he would have to live with what he has done wrong for the rest of his life.

Question is do people continue to hammer him or forgive him ?
Has he done you wrong ? If so , are you going to continue to hate him and live with
it for the rest of your life or are you going to forgive not forget and move on ?

Andrew Fortune isn't somebody who got up infront of a group of people in a hall admitting that he have a problem.He got up and told every body he have a problem.
He explained his problem.He is dealing with his problem.
He admitted to being a drug addict.Now he is going out to teach and help others.
This sissy-wanker still salute you.

Hacker I have just got off the phone to Andrew who brought your post to my attention,firstly let me clarify one thing Andy is not and never has denied the fact that his past is one of mayhem in fact his first step forward could not be taken untill he realised and excepted that fact,however that is exactly what it is HIS PAST,your statement about him is absolute bullshit and unfounded as for your "playing God" statement that he's sold his integrity so many times it's gone shows that you have not been in his company for a very long time and my guess is NEVER HAVE,in fact you are no doubt from that band of non believers that said Andy would last no more than a month and after his first winner or two would be back to his old ways, so who the phuck are you to judge Andrew hennie or any one else on this site,leave the judging to the greater power or is that who you feel you speak for?? is your past so squeaky clean that you can come on and look down and condem people with your uneducated statements,in closing my name is George his is Andrew and hennie h is marlon now the only anon here is you....are you man enough let us know who you are?? or are you gonna hide behind your keyboard and make false accusation that have no substance nor truth...I am and always will be PROUDLY a friend of Andys.

No matter what gets said here, nothing speaks louder than Manna's commitment to helping others!

Hacker, it is in exceptionally poor taste that you chose to badmouth him on a public forum. Irrespective of your complaints, Manna is committing his energy to the upliftment and benefit of others, there is no greater duty a man can perform.

I fail to see how your attempts to bring him down can have any positive consequence.. for anyone.