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10 months 2 days ago #847815 by Thor

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This is the type of behavior that is being encouraged - Every time this is called out, then nobody identifies the people taking the bets or cancelling, so of course it will go on.

The odds-on favourite, number 5 in Mauritius race 3, San Andreas, had all the place money on it until racetime, and was showing 0.40 a place. Then at the jump, all this money on it was cancelled, and the horse, blazing odds-on favourite, returns R3.90 a place. This happens on most races, and yet nothing is being done to stop it.

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10 months 2 days ago #847816 by mr hawaii

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maybe its time to complain to the Gambling Board - then I think the operators will take us seriously

THE MORE YOU STUDY FORM THE LUCKIER YOU GET

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10 months 2 days ago - 10 months 2 days ago #847818 by durbs

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Place pool was R3874
Get 6 people to take a R499 and a R100 place bet.
just before the off cancel the R499 bets and you have the dividend go up 4 or 5 times

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10 months 2 days ago #847819 by durbs

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It's not illegal to do this so of course you will get people doing this when they know the pools will be small

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10 months 2 days ago #847822 by Thor

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Check what the 1/5 Cartel Boss paid for a place on the tote now.

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10 months 2 days ago #847823 by naresh

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durbs wrote:
It's not illegal to do this so of course you will get people doing this when they know the pools will be small

In my opinion, its professionally manipulated, so that person wager bets on the Open Bet. If you watch the Pools closely you can take advantage of it. Happens often in the UK in 4 or 5 runner fields for a certain bet type. If you cannot beat them, join them....

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10 months 2 days ago #847824 by durbs

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Thor wrote:
Check what the 1/5 Cartel Boss paid for a place on the tote now.

R5-40 unbelievable.
If these tote guys cannot see this manipulation and don't ask questions it means someone working in the tote is probably in on this.

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10 months 2 days ago #847825 by Thor

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Same M.O. R1.30 a win. R5.90 a place.

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10 months 2 days ago #847826 by mr hawaii

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simple to find out where the cancelled bets originate from -

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10 months 2 days ago #847828 by durbs

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naresh wrote:

durbs wrote:
It's not illegal to do this so of course you will get people doing this when they know the pools will be small

In my opinion, its professionally manipulated, so that person wager bets on the Open Bet. If you watch the Pools closely you can take advantage of it. Happens often in the UK in 4 or 5 runner fields for a certain bet type. If you cannot beat them, join them....

The problem there is that the bookies won't pay out more than the pool total.
But R3000 and R1900 is not bad at all

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10 months 2 days ago #847829 by mr hawaii

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durbs wrote:

Thor wrote:
Check what the 1/5 Cartel Boss paid for a place on the tote now.

R5-40 unbelievable.
If these tote guys cannot see this manipulation and don't ask questions it means someone working in the tote is probably in on this.

I remember a Jooste henchman admitting to cancelling big bets when he thought he was going to get a R1or less payout

THE MORE YOU STUDY FORM THE LUCKIER YOU GET

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10 months 2 days ago #847830 by mr hawaii

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durbs wrote:

naresh wrote:

durbs wrote:
It's not illegal to do this so of course you will get people doing this when they know the pools will be small

In my opinion, its professionally manipulated, so that person wager bets on the Open Bet. If you watch the Pools closely you can take advantage of it. Happens often in the UK in 4 or 5 runner fields for a certain bet type. If you cannot beat them, join them....

The problem there is that the bookies won't pay out more than the pool total.
But R3000 and R1900 is not bad at all

and if 5 accounts are taking the pool it gets messy

THE MORE YOU STUDY FORM THE LUCKIER YOU GET

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