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The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made | Truthout
Some history of Victoria Nuland's involvement...and the start of the trouble...Susan Rice and other BHO acolytes also have blood on their hands, but they are untouchable...
Some history of Victoria Nuland's involvement...and the start of the trouble...Susan Rice and other BHO acolytes also have blood on their hands, but they are untouchable...
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3 months 5 days agox.com/VDHanson/status/1895892571664343159
Victor Davis Hanson - Conservative commentator says all one needs to know.
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@bayern...when you post innumerable videos and links to leftist media narratives, you expect it to be taken as the gospel or to advance your view yet anything that doesn't align with that must be dismissed...
So, DJT is wrong in the minds of so many so what is their solution to the war?...three years and going...thousands dead, millions likely displaced...widespread destruction of property and billions down a drain...
As DJT asked Keir Starmer...are they going to take on the Russians and Starmer had no answer...
So, here's an article from the Guardian...definitely not conservative or right wing for you to try to be dismissive...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/f...elenskyy-oval-office
So, DJT is wrong in the minds of so many so what is their solution to the war?...three years and going...thousands dead, millions likely displaced...widespread destruction of property and billions down a drain...
As DJT asked Keir Starmer...are they going to take on the Russians and Starmer had no answer...
So, here's an article from the Guardian...definitely not conservative or right wing for you to try to be dismissive...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/f...elenskyy-oval-office
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3 months 5 days agoThe Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made | Truthout
Some history of Victoria Nuland's involvement...and the start of the trouble...Susan Rice and other BHO acolytes also have blood on their hands, but they are untouchable...
This article is as old as Methuselah, can you post something more recent in Trump's defense. Why did he US has changed sides during a war - to benefit whom?
That aside, the real question should be who attacked who first? Some say, Putin did not want the Ukraine to become a NATO member and that annoyed Russia - whatever the reason.
Not sure whether you can jail a person for planning a bank robbery without it being carried out- that's what this was - the Ukraine had plans of joining, so Russia just invaded.
By the way, happy you rejoined the discussion/thread, after your last post - no mas.
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@bayern...the Crimean invasion took place during BHO's term, after the ousting of the pro-Russian president and the Ukrainian invasion took place during Corn Pop Joe's term in office with no action being taken to end it...
What has happened cannot be undone so, given the state of affairs, what is the solution? It's so much easier to criticise DJT than come up with a solution...more money to Ukraine? Not likely...NATO or US troops on the ground? Likely escalation into a bigger conflict with use of nuclear weapons...Russia going back to 2014 or 2022 boundaries? Not going to happen as Putin will never concede what he thinks is the spoils of war that his troops have sacrificed their lives for...
So, what is the / a realistic solution given the current state of affairs ?
I'm only posting because I have an hour to waste before going to visit my parents !! You can go back to posting your narratives without any response from me as you have your view and I have mine and we are unlikely to budge...
When elephants fight, the grass suffers...Ukraine is the grass...
What has happened cannot be undone so, given the state of affairs, what is the solution? It's so much easier to criticise DJT than come up with a solution...more money to Ukraine? Not likely...NATO or US troops on the ground? Likely escalation into a bigger conflict with use of nuclear weapons...Russia going back to 2014 or 2022 boundaries? Not going to happen as Putin will never concede what he thinks is the spoils of war that his troops have sacrificed their lives for...
So, what is the / a realistic solution given the current state of affairs ?
I'm only posting because I have an hour to waste before going to visit my parents !! You can go back to posting your narratives without any response from me as you have your view and I have mine and we are unlikely to budge...
When elephants fight, the grass suffers...Ukraine is the grass...
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3 months 5 days ago@bayern...when you post innumerable videos and links to leftist media narratives, you expect it to be taken as the gospel or to advance your view yet anything that doesn't align with that must be dismissed...
So, DJT is wrong in the minds of so many so what is their solution to the war?...three years and going...thousands dead, millions likely displaced...widespread destruction of property and billions down a drain...
As DJT asked Keir Starmer...are they going to take on the Russians and Starmer had no answer...
So, here's an article from the Guardian...definitely not conservative or right wing for you to try to be dismissive...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/f...elenskyy-oval-office
So the author admits the meeting was always intended to "set a trap" by your second hero, DJ Vance. This was always a set-up, right?,Β for someone fighting for his country's Sovereign Right.
This mineral deal, $350Billion, can you explain how or where this is calculated or comes from? So what everyone is saying, just sign the deal and there will be peace. Why should the Ukraine pay more than they owe and where is the security guarantees that Putin will not attack again?
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3 months 5 days ago@bayern...the Crimean invasion took place during BHO's term, after the ousting of the pro-Russian president and the Ukrainian invasion took place during Corn Pop Joe's term in office with no action being taken to end it...
What has happened cannot be undone so, given the state of affairs, what is the solution? It's so much easier to criticise DJT than come up with a solution...more money to Ukraine? Not likely...NATO or US troops on the ground? Likely escalation into a bigger conflict with use of nuclear weapons...Russia going back to 2014 or 2022 boundaries? Not going to happen as Putin will never concede what he thinks is the spoils of war that his troops have sacrificed their lives for...
So, what is the / a realistic solution given the current state of affairs ?
I'm only posting because I have an hour to waste before going to visit my parents !! You can go back to posting your narratives without any response from me as you have your view and I have mine and we are unlikely to budge...
When elephants fight, the grass suffers...Ukraine is the grass...
Obama did not have the then President ousted, the then Ukraine Parliament voted to remove him. You keep blaming the Left, not sure why. Just admit you man and his side kick are not looking good right now.
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3 months 5 days ago - 3 months 5 days agoI'll indulge you one last time....
I wish you well...
Yet here you are once again defending the indefensible and making excuses and blaming others. You have to be one of the very few left that still canβt see through Trump
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3 months 5 days ago - 3 months 5 days agoI'll indulge you one last time....
I wish you well...
Yet here you are once again defending the indefensible and making excuses and blaming others. You have to be one of the very few left that still canβt see through Trump
Okayβ¦if you want to push your narratives in an unchallenged manner, Iβm off this topic againβ¦
Water off my backβ¦the grass will continue to suffer and more so without the USβs involvementβ¦
So much criticism and yet no proposed realistic solutionβ¦
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