Fears and thoughts in South Africa

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4 years 5 months ago
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I googled it, juts to make sure it wasn't a hoax.

WT! And when they say, "China advised....", we know what they really mean, right?

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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President to address the nation Monday evening.

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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Yes tonight is for BIG family announcement.

What can we expect?

My guess:
Closing of beaches, no large parties, tight control on drinks.

My hope:
That the corrupt people around him are also "brought to book" ( a silly SA statement).

Practice what you preach ......

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

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Today is refuse removal day.
The team leader noted my Christmas donation in his note book and with a huge smile asked me if I have stocked up with tshwala and gwaai.
My oh my, the Pres and his merry gang surely cannot be so idiotic? Riots? Looting? Mayhem?

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

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London going down into lockdown from tonight, or so they say.


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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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President has spoken and I guess predicted and reasonable under circumstances.
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Re: Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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We got off lightly.


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Re: Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

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President Cyril Ramaphosa has announced new lockdown measures at both national, and district level for South Africa.

In a national address on Monday evening (14 December), the president said that the country has been hit by a second wave of coronavirus infections with nearly 8,000 new cases reported on Sunday.

There can no longer be any doubt that South Africa has entered a second wave, said the president. “If we do not act urgently, the second wave will be even more severe than the first wave.”

The president pointed to four provinces leading this second wave, including:


The Western Cape
The Eastern Cape
KZN
Gauteng
There are probably many reasons for this massive spike in infections, but some key contributors are now becoming clearer, the president said.

Ramaphosa said that most cases are reported in young people between 15 and 19 years. He said that one of the main reasons for the massive spike in infections are social gatherings and parties- particularly the matric rage event.

“In many of these gatherings, social distancing is not being observed, venues are crowded and not adequately ventilated, hand sanitiser is not readily available, and people are not wearing masks,” he said.

Many people consume alcoholic drinks at these ‘super-spreader’ events, with the result that people become less careful about taking measures to protect themselves and prevent infection.


“We now know that nearly 1,000 young people from Gauteng who attended the event have tested positive for the coronavirus. What we don’t yet know is how many more people each of them has infected.

“It is said that up to 300 families could in turn have been infected. The sad truth about is that festivals, concerts & parties – which should be occasions for fun & joy – are proving to be sources of infection & illness and may even lead to deaths.”

Other reasons behind the rise infections include increased travel between provinces and a relaxed attitude to current lockdown regulations such as wearing masks.

“The more we travel, the greater the potential to spread the virus,” the president said.


He said that the relatively low rates of infection over the last few months have made us more relaxed about wearing a mask over our nose and mouth every time we go out in public.

“Another factor in the rise in infections is increased travel with many people not observing prevention measures as they move within cities, towns and rural areas, and between different areas.”

“The festive season now poses the greatest threat,” the president said. “Unless we do things differently, this will be the last Christmas for many South Africans,” he said.

Local restrictions

Ramaphosa said that it is necessary to take extraordinary measures to save lives, while still protecting livelihoods.

These measures include local lockdown restrictions for the Sarah Baartman District in the Eastern Cape and the Garden Route District in the Western Cape, which have been declared hotspot regions.

From 00h01 on Tuesday, until a drop in infections is seen, the following additional restrictions will take affect in these areas:

Hours of curfew will be from 22h00 – 04h00 except for essential workers and emergencies;
The sale of alcohol will only be permitted between 10h00 and 18h00, from Monday and Thursday at retail outlets;
Alcohol use will be banned in public places such as beaches and parks;
All gatherings, including religious gatherings, may not be attended by more than 100 people for indoor events and 250 people for outdoor events;
At all times the total number of people may not exceed 50% of venue capacity;
All post-funeral gatherings are now prohibited.
National lockdown

Ramaphosa also announced that further national restrictions will be reintroduced from 00h01 on Tuesday.

These restrictions will be reviewed in early January based on the state of the country’s coronavirus cases, he said.

The new restrictions include:

Stricter enforcement of existing level 1 lockdown restrictions – This includes that people in public buildings and public transport wear masks.
Gatherings – Gatherings will be further restricted to 100 people for indoor events and 250 for outdoor events. The total number of people in a venue may not exceed 50% of the capacity of the venue.
Funerals – All post-funeral gathering are prohibited across the country.
Beaches – Ramaphosa said that a differentiated approach will be used for the country’s beaches and public parks. In areas with high coronavirus cases beaches and parks will be closed from 16 December to 3 January – this will apply to all of the Eastern Cape and the Garden Route. Beaches will also be closed in KZN on days which are seen as particularly busy. These include 16 December, 26 December, 31 December, 1 January, 2 January, and 3 January. Beaches and public parks in the Western Cape and Northern Cape will remain open for now.
Evening – South Africa’s national curfew will be extended: 23h00 until 04h00. This means that non-essential establishments such as restaurants will have to close at 22h00 so that staff and patrons can go home before curfew. The curfew is in full effect on Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve.
Alcohol – The sale of alcohol will only be permitted from 10h00 – 18h00 from Monday to Thursday at retail outlets. Wine farms can remain open and sell alcohol for off-site consumption as per their licence hours.
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Re: Re:Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

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Re: Re:Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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I think the approach is getting more sensible; encouraging that the first point mentioned was 'enforcing current Level 1 restrictions' - which to me is good starting point, IF they can practice what they preach.

I guess the fact that KZN beaches got less 'closed days' than the beaches in PE and the Garden Route, would be because the infection levels are lower - if so, it does make sort of sense; however I don't really believe that open air destinations and stadiums should be closed - limit the number of people, yes - but to close them ?

Curfew - well that's debatable - if the rules are enforced I'm not sure that 1 hour either way will make much of a difference.

Alcohol sales hours - this will hurt establishments, especially those that depend on the 'weekly paid customers', as these people I believe get paid on a Friday - thereby lessening alcohol consumption (and the resulting senseless violence) on weekends - and thus also should lighten the load on the hospitals - so also a fair move imo

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Re: Re:Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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So the matric rave party is seen as a major contributor to the recent spike. But somehow, public transport and everything that goes with it, isn't.

I wonder what's the science behind that?

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Re: Re:Re:Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 5 months ago
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The EFF protests?

Remember the easy hits will be the focus, pubs/restaurants normal law abiding citizens where fines or bribes an easy cash flow 😢

Nobody on beaches will be a pointless "capture" 😢

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