Fears and thoughts in South Africa

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4 years 4 months ago
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If they held a minutes silence who every person that has died with covid then

Taiwan would be silent for 9 minutes
New Zealand for 27 minutes
Vietnam for 35 minutes

The U.K. will be silent for 77 days

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 4 months ago
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......I know of a Taiwanese couple that are residents here ,,,,as we walk our dogs in the same park.....they left here to go back to Taiwan for a short visit many months ago and were due back this month....now we hear they plan to stay longer in Taiwan at least until the Covid situation here improves.....their poor little dog is still here and has bonded with their house sitter who still brings the dog to the park every day since the reopening of parks last week.....:blink:

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4 years 3 months ago
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Back in Pretoria after a lovely busy week in KZN.

I only watched the news for first time this morning and as expected Zuma ain't going to commission.

Not sure of the implications but would love him to be arrested, however the shit would surely hit the fan.
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Interesting and worrying times ahead.

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Dave Scott wrote: Back in Pretoria after a lovely busy week in KZN.

I only watched the news for first time this morning and as expected Zuma ain't going to commission.

Not sure of the implications but would love him to be arrested, however the shit would surely hit the fan.
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Interesting and worrying times ahead.

Is it not always Dave?

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Re: Fears and thoughts as we move to level ONE

4 years 3 months ago
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I've just heard this crazy conspiracy theory about a virus being used to control the entire World population.
It's ridiculous but, despite the virus causing a condition that 99.95% of people will survive, it's very existence is going to be used by governments around the World as a way of testing the obedience of the population to it's limits.
Not only that, but simultaneously governments across the globe will conspire with massive pharmaceutical companies to engineer and deploy a mass programme of gene therapy technology wrapped up as a "vaccine" that will initially be referred to as a "magic bullet" but later be proven to be both unnecessary AND extremely dangerous.
The obvious question is "Why would billions of people allow themselves to be injected with such a substance?"
The answer is FEAR.
Governments around the World will embark on a round the clock, non-stop campaign of fear mongering propaganda aimed at scaring nearly 8 billion people into believing they are ALL potential serial killers if they break the rules. That they will infect and kill others if they disobey. That they MUST do as they're told "for the safety of others".
This propaganda will convince billions of people that THEY are personally responsible for the safety of EVERYONE else. They MUST NOT break the rules. They will kill people.
But what rules?
Initially we'll be told we need to stay at home for just a few weeks in order to "suppress the virus".
Schools will close, shops will close, as will restaurants, pubs, sports facilities, museums, cinemas etc.
In fact ONLY shops selling absolutely "essential items" will be allowed to remain open.
Heavy fines will be imposed on any transgressors.
This initial "lockdown" will run in conjunction with a series of financial assistance schemes. Not due to any benevolence from governments but to suppress the will of citizens to complain about the imposition they are forced to endure. To stop them getting restless. To quell their desire to rebel. To subdue them.
These lockdown measures will continue (in different forms) for nearly a year during which time legislation will be passed in order to compel the populance to wear a "face covering" in public places and to remain 6 feet apart from anyone they don't live with.
Additionally we will have the decision of who we allow into our own homes taken away from us.
We will be told how many people we can converse with in the park, (ALL indoor and outdoor group sports will be banned of course), and how long we can "excerise" outdoors.
We will also be informed that we are personally responsible for the ability of our health services to cope during this "pandemic". If WE step out of line the system will crumble.
And the media will go along with it. Unquestioning. Strangely compliant.
Meanwhile, we'll be informed that the "vaccines" are on their way.
We're told once the "vaccines" arrive we can start to get our old lives back.
"WE JUST NEED THE VACCINES".
By now many millions of routine health procedures will have been cancelled. Millions of essential operations will have been removed from the schedules and waiting lists for hospital treatment will increase by several thousand percent.
Mental health issues will begin to overwhelm millions of individuals and families. Suicide rates will rocket. People will begin unnecessarily dying from cancer, diabetes, heart disease and strokes because they were too scared to ask for help, believing they'd be a burden on health services or they were worried about catching the virus in hospital.
Hundreds of thousands of closed businesses will NEVER reopen.
And all the while we're told "The vaccines are coming. The vaccines are coming. The vaccines are coming".
And the vaccines arrive.
And governments start to inject all the elderly and vulnerable.
And we're told "NOTHING has changed. The vaccines are here but nothing has changed".
Lockdown continues. Businesses remain closed. Masks are still mandatory. You still can't even THINK about getting your previous life back until EVERYONE is injected.
And just to enforce this point, new rules are imposed upon us and new penalties are introduced. Fines for "transgressors" are increased and we're even threatened with 10 years in prison if we fail to comply.
But then we all find out that the "magic bullet" is nothing of the sort.
It doesn't stop you catching the virus or passing it on to others.
It only reduces SOME of the symptoms in SOME of the people SOME of the time.
And we will need TWO doses.
But it gets worse.
More "Variants" of the virus are detected. They're given names like the "South African", the "Brazilian" and the "Kent".
We're told the "vaccines" may not be effective on the new variants.
We're told we may need THREE injections or possibly even FOUR, but these won't be available for months.
Meanwhile, everything is still shut. There is no end in sight.
And the media still refuse to question what's happening.
Then something happens.
All around the World there are reports of people dying after receiving the "vaccine".
In the UK the number of people dying from "covid related" conditions in care homes rises threefold in two weeks.
Why?
Official figures are released regarding the reported numbers of adverse reactions from the "vaccines". The statistics are worrying.
But they're brushed aside by officials and "experts" as neither concerning or important. Nothing to do with the "vaccines". Just a coincidence.
And the media refuse to investigate.
The lockdowns continue unabated.
More people are "vaccinated". More die.
More businesses fail. More people jump in front of trains.
More children suffer. More families are ripped apart.
By now we're in an endless cycle of lockdowns, restrictions, rules, fines, arrests, hope then despair, then no hope. Just the realisation that this will NEVER end.
But it's OK. It REALLY is OK.
Because the vaccines have arrived. And that was the reason for all of this from the start.
Thank God it's only a conspiracy theory.
It could never actually happen.
Never.
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4 years 3 months ago
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sounds like a good script for a movie with Jessica Chastain in the leading role as the investigative reporter that reveals all

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4 years 3 months ago
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This will sadly be totally ignored by the ANC and water of a ducks back 😢

www.facebook.com/VFplus/videos/126084076081311/

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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago
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Amazing how SA health medicine regulator gave the all clear for this vaccine that has only been tested for about a month. And the article says extensively.

And the SAHP bans Ivermectin, a NOBEL peace winning medication that has been around for over 40 years.

Their argument....it is only for animal use. Well news for them is that The Fort Detrick Biolab in the USA was messing around using animals in experiments.

Could that just be the reason why people using IVM are recovering from Covid. Was pangolins and bats not accused of starting this s...t?

www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/what-you-sh...d=UE01DHP&li=BBqg6Q6

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Janssen’s Ad26.COV2.S vaccine comprises a proprietary recombinant, replication defective adenovirus 26 (Ad26) vector containing a transgene of the spike protein of SARS-2CoV designed to induce an immune response including neutralising antibodies against the spike protein to eliminate the virus. Preclinical data published in Nature shows protection against infection including potent and long-lasting antibody and cellular immune responses. The global clinical study being delivered by the government and Janssen will run in parallel with phase 3 clinical trials taking place in the US, which is investigating the effectiveness of a single dose of the vaccine.

Janssen Pharmaceutica NV are one of the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson and Johnson.
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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago
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Trials, tribulations, licences...………………..

www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/local/...dge-the-gap-20210215

The High Court in Pretoria gives the all clear for Ivermectin to be used by doctors in the fight against Covid.
Yet the Chief Mutiman in the Western Cape... Cloete refuses to allow use of the treatment, his excuse......he is not in Gauteng so will not follow the jurisdiction of the High Court.

After written submissions to the Chief Mutiman in WC, OVER 300 PEOPLE HAVE DIED OF COVID IN WC. YET HE REFUSES TO ALLOW DOCTORS TO TREAT PEOPLE UNDER SECTION 21.

What is going on here???
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4 years 3 months ago
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......how does Cyril get a vaccine jab from a nurse not wearing surgical gloves.....:huh:

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@Muhtiman...following from @mikesack's post, is the "Chief Mutiman in WC" your boss? :unsure: :P

On a serious note, we "procured" Ivermectin (some-one in Aus informed us of some-one in Mozambique who delivered to some-one in Morningside that we know) to assist my mother-in-law, when she was first diagnosed as infected, and it didn't help at all...

There are conflicting reports as to it's efficacy and I think vested interests for and against its use...in the end, government wants to be in control...however incompetent they know they are and if some of "our people" (to use CR7 words) pass due to that incompetence, at least they should die knowing that government knows and does what is best for "our people"...sadly...

My concerns at the moment is how did SAA receive R5 billion to fund the VSP's signed pre-August last year and how are funds now available to pay for vaccines...we are in junk status so many foreign and local investment funds cannot touch SA government bonds so I suspect that the Reserve Bank is printing money to buy up high yielding short dated government bonds not issued in the open market...checked Reserve Bank site and there has been massive increase in money supply from early 2020 to now...as one of our dimwit government luminaries said "quantity easing"...

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.....I saw what Mike was getting at....basically a muti man is a traditional healer a non qualified medicine man or a even a qualified quack......this Ivermectin matter and the WC quack snubbing it.....seems to be purely political and a few WC people are trying to flex their muscles at the ANC led rest of the country....imo a piss poor response but I wish that the DA WOULD TAKE MORE OF A more sensible STAND on the ANC position on Covid issues....and where were they when Beki Cele was chasing large financial income streams of their beaches....:huh:

.....I am very disappointed that the DA has not exercised more federal muscle other than Steenhuizens SONA response address....but the Cape is still in a much better shape.....;)

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