Fears and thoughts in South Africa
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2 years 8 months agoIn Eskom’s bid to keep the lights on late last year, it instructed the country’s oil company, PetroSA, to buy diesel from two companies without following proper procurement processes.....Petro SA has always been a dodgy dealing concern with a massive slush fund....as Mossgas no longer refines anything ....yet they are now a storage facility for imported fuel and now has a massive logistics and distribution division that is enriching outsourced cadre's transporting this higher priced commodity which could be handled cheaper through other ports...:huh:@Muhtiman...didn't PetroSA sell off the reserves to cadres at a bargain basement price of $28 and will likely be replacing it at 3 times the price by re-purchasing from the same cadres? Bit like how the eThekwini Municipality buys the bus service for R400 million and sells it back to the cadres for a much discounted price...money needed to fund election bribes...
The Strategic Fuel Fund (SFF) is the entity that holds reserves of crude and petroleum products on behalf of the state and this is the entity that was under the spotlight for the dodgy trade at a bargain basement price a few years ago, NOT PetroSA. They are however all cut from the same cloth. The SFF and PetroSA are owned by the Central Energy Fund that falls in the portfolio and control of none other that Gwede the untouchable Man-touch.
The fact of the matter is that there is no diesel shortage in SA currently and that excludes the reserves that sits in tanks at the SFF. Is de Ruyter trying to pave the way for "emergency" procurement of diesel due to PetroSA's inability to supply Eskom? I know for a fact that PetroSA is also not the only supplier of diesel to Eskom. Eskom is in all likelihood dependent on credit terms from PetroSA and probably don't have cash to pay upfront for diesel. No doubt that someone is in for a big payday soon after emergency diesel is delivered in the coming days.
Time for Gordan and de Ruyter to pack it up as their (non)performance is crippling the economy. Gwede should also follow.
PS. One upon a time, in the last decade, PetroSA was a cash cow with in excess of R10 billion of cash on its balance sheet. Today they literally struggle to pay salaries.
But, significantly, the two companies from which PetroSA bought more than 32-million litres of diesel, European oil giant Vitol and its local empowerment partner, Vesquin, are at the centre of the controversial sale of South Africa’s crude oil emergency reserves.
That 2016 sale, which has left the country without strategic oil reserves for emergencies, is the subject of a Hawks investigation after it was discovered that the Strategic Fuel Fund’s then acting chief executive, Sibusiso Gamede, flouted procurement processes in the sale.
Part of the investigation involves an unexplained R20-million that was deposited in attorney Gamede’s dormant trust account at the time the deal was being negotiated and concluded.
Forensic investigations into the sale of the 10-million barrels of crude at rock-bottom prices to three entities — Vitol/Vesquin, Venus Trade/Glencore and Taleveras — uncovered that Gamede was in direct talks, even negotiating prices, with the buyers on his own during the evaluation and adjudication stages of the deal.
The Central Energy Fund, the mother body of PetroSA and the Strategic Fuel Fund, is in court trying to reverse the sale and stands to lose billions of rands if it has to replenish the emergency stocks at current oil prices.
Vitol spokesperson Andrea Schlaepfer said the company had followed the appropriate processes when purchasing the crude oil from the fund.
PetroSA spokesperson Tumoetsile Mogamisi this week defended the diesel transaction, saying the court action did not stop it from doing business with Vitol, and the transaction was in line with its emergency procurement rules.
But internal PetroSA memos about the transaction, seen by the Mail & Guardian, suggest there were internal fears that the company was being compromised by Eskom’s very specific request.
In this latest deal, Vesquin received close to R80-million for the diesel.
In a memo dated December 12, written by Themba Joseph, PetroSA’s vice-president of trading, supply and logistics, he said the company informed Eskom that its request to purchase the diesel based on an emergency meant that they would be flouting its procurement processes and not following tender process.
“Eskom is not able to trade directly with Vesquin. This deal therefore did not follow the normal PetroSA purchasing processes of tendering,” he said.
Last week, Eskom chairperson Jabu Mabuza revealed that the utility had spent R4.5-billion in six months on diesel. Its budget for diesel in the current financial year is R666-million.
The M&G understands that this is not the first time Eskom approached PetroSA with an emergency request for diesel. This has put added strain on PetroSA’s ability to provide diesel for the utility.
Lorna Tlhako, a trading manager at PetroSA, said: “As it stands, Eskom has not indicated what their January requirement is, even though PetroSA has been requesting for the same. PetroSA and Eskom need to engage such that Eskom can be assisted to manage their diesel delivery costs.”
Tlhako said the entity had already purchased diesel for Cape Town but “indicated that additional volume purchased for Cape Town must be utilised in Mossel Bay as that is where Eskom will be utilising higher diesel volumes to meet electricity demand”.
Eskom told PetroSA it had sourced diesel from Vesquin, to be delivered between December 12 to 16 last year. PetroSA had to close the deal with Vesquin on the utility’s behalf.
Mogamisi said PetroSA bought diesel to augment its stock, which was negatively affected by the prolonged shutdown and Eskom’s emergency demand at the time.
He added that PetroSA’s trading policy, which also caters for emergency procurement, was followed and they chose Vesquin from their database.
When Eskom was asked why they had directed PetroSA to buy from a specific supplier, spokesperson Khulu Phasiwe said: “Eskom has a contract with PetroSA; we do not have information on suppliers of PetroSA.”
But when pressed for further comment, Phasiwe confirmed that Eskom “requested PetroSA to make an arrangement with Vesquin to secure 11-million litres of diesel because PetroSA did not have sufficient diesel”.
An insider with knowledge of the deal with the power utility said PetroSA had to secure the diesel otherwise there would have been load-shedding at the time.
“PetroSA was contracted to supply diesel to Eskom. It was its responsibility to secure diesel for Eskom from any supplier. PetroSA cannot blame Eskom for not following its internal processes. Eskom was going to load-shed without diesel,” said the insider.
Regarding the PetroSA/Eskom deal, Schlaepfer said she was not aware of any restrictions that prevented it from trading with Eskom and added: “It would be inappropriate for Vitol to comment on the detail of its commercial relationships.”
This was back in 2019....so nothing new with the ESKOM/PetroSA supply relationship.....these journalists should continue digging as it does not make sense that Diesel is routed through Mossgas facility when it is needed in Cape Town....where one could rent tank space and cut out the costly logistics road hauling from Mossel Bay...:whistle:
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2 years 8 months ago
Yet another Nkandla move by ANC MPs.
Form News24:
"The ANC blocked the establishment of an ad hoc committee to investigate the scandal surrounding a break-in at President Cyril Ramaphosa's Limpopo game farm Phala Phala"
"the ANC's majority, supplemented by GOOD's two votes, defeated the motion 199 to 126"
The Pres will be in Parli at 14h00 today to mock the nation on Phala Phala, just like Zuma did.
The 199 cadres will be all smiles and and majority of them will be lobbying for another 5 years in Parli at the December 2022 ANC conference.
This country is in desperate need of VOTER EDUCATION and A NEW ELECTORIAL ACT.
Form News24:
"The ANC blocked the establishment of an ad hoc committee to investigate the scandal surrounding a break-in at President Cyril Ramaphosa's Limpopo game farm Phala Phala"
"the ANC's majority, supplemented by GOOD's two votes, defeated the motion 199 to 126"
The Pres will be in Parli at 14h00 today to mock the nation on Phala Phala, just like Zuma did.
The 199 cadres will be all smiles and and majority of them will be lobbying for another 5 years in Parli at the December 2022 ANC conference.
This country is in desperate need of VOTER EDUCATION and A NEW ELECTORIAL ACT.
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2 years 8 months ago
ive probably said this before but its worth repeating. 17 years ago i watched my son play soccer, one of his teammates was young mufumadi son of sydney. on the touchline i asked him why zimbos continue to vote for mugabe. he had just returned from some sort of peace keeping mission to zim. he explained to me that every voter in zim will always vote for mugabe no matter what he does because he won their freedom. you will recall zuma saying exactly the same thing when proclaiming that the anc will rule until jesus comes again. the s a electorate is the same, their way of expressing dissatisfaction with the anc is to not vote at all. obviously the logical and intelligent thing to do is to vote someone else in and give them the opportunity to sort things out but no that leap of faith is abridge too far for this lot
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Is voter education the answer? What does that even mean?
Take the USA as an example. You have educated people on both sides of the isle, 100% convinced that the other side is crazy. I personally find it mindboggling that anyone can support the dems, as I'm sure, a dem finds it mindboggling that I don't support the dems. What then, shapes ones view of the world, and how one sees things? The lazy answer is to say that it boils down to cognitive abilities. I think its much deeper than that.
Take the USA as an example. You have educated people on both sides of the isle, 100% convinced that the other side is crazy. I personally find it mindboggling that anyone can support the dems, as I'm sure, a dem finds it mindboggling that I don't support the dems. What then, shapes ones view of the world, and how one sees things? The lazy answer is to say that it boils down to cognitive abilities. I think its much deeper than that.
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lionel surely the answer is you dont have to be a party member. you vote on performance. if the bloke representing your party does a useless job either look for a different candidate or vote for the other guy who does a job.in this country policy is meaningless what is required is an mp who firstly doesnt steal and secondly can keep the lights on and the water running etc etc
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2 years 8 months agolionel surely the answer is you dont have to be a party member. you vote on performance. if the bloke representing your party does a useless job either look for a different candidate or vote for the other guy who does a job.in this country policy is meaningless what is required is an mp who firstly doesnt steal and secondly can keep the lights on and the water running etc etc
Hi Jim. What you say is is how it would work in the corporate world. But in politics, especially when there is a lot of baggage involved, other factors sometimes outweighs performance issues. Lets look at Eskom, and its CEO. I sometimes read the excuses that get made for him by the general public, and wonder if the same would be said if he was somebody else.
I think that if we are all honest with ourselves, there is a little prejudice in all of us.
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2 years 8 months ago
Biznews bloody insane
Whoever paid for the visit by representatives of the ANC Youth League to observe the sham Russian referendums, it is a reprehensible move.
Read the full article here: www.biznews.com/global-investing/2022/09...-russian-referendums
Whoever paid for the visit by representatives of the ANC Youth League to observe the sham Russian referendums, it is a reprehensible move.
Read the full article here: www.biznews.com/global-investing/2022/09...-russian-referendums
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CNN - European security officials on Monday and Tuesday observed Russian Navy support ships in the vicinity of leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines likely caused by underwater explosions, according two Western intelligence officials and one other source familiar with the matter.
It’s unclear whether the ships had anything to do with those explosions, these sources and others said – but it’s one of the many factors that investigators will be looking into.
Russian submarines were also observed not far from those areas last week, one of the intelligence officials said.
Ok, so at least we know that Russia is not responsible.
It’s unclear whether the ships had anything to do with those explosions, these sources and others said – but it’s one of the many factors that investigators will be looking into.
Russian submarines were also observed not far from those areas last week, one of the intelligence officials said.
Ok, so at least we know that Russia is not responsible.
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2 years 8 months agolionel surely the answer is you dont have to be a party member. you vote on performance. if the bloke representing your party does a useless job either look for a different candidate or vote for the other guy who does a job.in this country policy is meaningless what is required is an mp who firstly doesnt steal and secondly can keep the lights on and the water running etc etc
They ANC hijacked the narrative that they liberated South Africa...other liberation entities were violently silenced...
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......is de Ruyter that dumb that he can think that the public can swallow this Mossel Bay diesel delivery b@llsh!t....as ESKOM does have an open cycle gas turbine plant right accross the road from the Mossgas refinery that uses diesel....but it can only generate 740MW with all the 5X148MW units running....this is a pittance of the total energy required and cannot solve the rolling blackouts....yes time for him to go....he has solved NADA....and played right into the hands of the rest of those that also try dupe the public on the unabated looting at ESKOM....

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I no longer take any interest in politics. No point to getting mad and cursing over something that I can’t control.
There are approx 8 billion people alive on earth today. In around 115 years time every single person alive today will be dead.
Enjoy the horses, the football, rugby, cricket your life while you can.
There are approx 8 billion people alive on earth today. In around 115 years time every single person alive today will be dead.
Enjoy the horses, the football, rugby, cricket your life while you can.
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2 years 8 months agoI no longer take any interest in politics. No point to getting mad and cursing over something that I can’t control.
There are approx 8 billion people alive on earth today. In around 115 years time every single person alive today will be dead.
Enjoy the horses, the football, rugby, cricket your life while you can.
We are not in control of anything beyond the tips of our nose...even the sport we love to follow...just ocassionally helps to get the blood pressure up a little...
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